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Kai Eckhardt
 Oct 12, 04 - 2:46 PM |
Where lies the future in music?
This is a question I have been pondering for a while and I would like to know how you all think about this one: Every period in the history of music comes up with it's own styles and directions. Most of us have whitnessed the emergence of styles such as: Grundge, Drum n bass, smooth jazz etc. Nobody knew what smooth jazz was in 1980. Most of the time styles emerge as "underground" phenomena before they enter the mainstream. What is going on today? What is new, what is innovative? How does it relate to what's going on in our world? Greetings to all of you, Kai 
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Flizzeye
Oct 14th, 2004 - 11:06 PM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
The following is by no means where music is heading, but its an interesting new genre and i dig the name, its kinda funki dont you think? [quote]Grime. Sublow. Dubstep. It's Music. Different people call it different things, depending on when they discovered it. In the 80's, maybe it was House, Techno and Electro. In the 90's it was UK-G, Drum and Bass, Breaks or whatever. Now there are so many terms for it that the journalists can’t pidgeon-hole it any more. This is a good thing - it's music. Moody music. Multifunctional, multifaceted music created by Humans with Brains, Hearts, Machines & Electricity. Music that’s great for dancing to in clubs, or submerging yourself within your headphones, your car, your home, wherever. It's instrumental dance music, but it's the perfect forum for the best MC's and vocalists. We at Rephlex call it Grime to publicise to the people at large, outside of the specialist world of it's producers. The purists might debate the name, but while they do that, crews around the globe are uniting in this strong & fresh dance movement. In this age of Information Technology, people are able to easily find real quality that they actually want, without being spoon-fed compromised product. Now, it is a time of change and the soundtrack is Grime -- http://www.rephlex.com/main_index.html [/quote] Rephlex, warp records, planet-Mu, and other independent nu-music labels are churning out some of the freshest sounds to my ears. Prolly cuz most of the tracks can be heard for free here: http://www.warprecords.com/bleep/?label=Warp Open source music, thats the future. Big up to the tapers and uploading sharing communities. The future must be fission/fusion! |
Nick
Oct 26th, 2004 - 4:48 PM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
Its a very hard question to anwser. But it is so easly given an opinion. It is hard to say what society will come up with, and what society will accept. But what i would like to see is probably different. Music written with understanding and written with wisdom. A great combination would have to be the lyrical meaning grunge, with the elaborateness of clasical and the mood of alternitive or jazz. Mixed with world sounds. This in my opinion is what i would want to listen to. But what is mainstream in popular society today seems to be much different. |
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Brad
Nov 16th, 2004 - 10:00 PM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
 well I wish could tell. I live in a town that is over ranby alot of modern rock and metal. The Future?, isn't looking so hot from were I'm standing. Now I can tell you were I would like it to go  I want 70's Miles back. On The Corner style. |
GT
Nov 17th, 2004 - 11:49 PM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
The future of music lies in the matuaration process of its audience. Regardless of the genre, fans are more intelligent and more knowledgeable of the way music is created. The future will, hopefully, introduce more true talented artsists! Now that the cat is out of the bag regarding making a successful career in music, A&R reps will no longer be judge & jury when it comes to talent. Up to now, most A&R cats having been doin' what's necessary to hold on to their jobs, so rather than taking a risk with some true talent, they'd rather find the next Usher...the next Norman Brown...the next NSYNC...the next Leann Rhymes...the next Tupac...the next Destiny's Child...the next Korn...and so on... Youth is becoming less important, and fanbase and sells are the key! Music is the international language! No two people talk alike, but yet most of today's music sounds like it's coming from the same direction. I'm hoping true artist become more business-like, ala Dave Matthews, then we can all write our own ticket! The future is in versatility! FUNKILINIUM, my versatile R&B, "live" band, is making one of the first steps towards this progress! Check out what we're doin' when the opportunity arrives... peace 2 all
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Rick C
Jan 14th, 2005 - 11:10 PM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
And the Wizard says: Hmmmm, the future is cloudy, check back after I talk to Miles! In the 1960's there was a great TV show called "The Prisoner" with Patrick McGoohan. They did their best to portray a future where you couldn't tell the bad guys from the good guys. In the process of making the 17 episodes, they came up with a lot of creative stuff. And now the point: There was a sign on the wall of the General Store (Next to the record albums) that said: "Music begins where words leave off" I don't know why, but I've never forgotten that. It reminds me that music is a spiritual thing. So, in answer to your question, the future of music lies in the spiritual strength of it's creator and fans. What it will sound like is of course anybody's guess. It is my belief that the musicians of the past that have shaped the music of today all have one thing in common - a strong spriritual content that is clearly coming from a source of extreme honesty and power. We could talk for days about who was most influential or most creative, but in both cases, the source material contains the spiritual ingredients that people are attracted to. Examples: The Beatles were a pop band, but look at the incredible spiritual content of their later stuff. Miles Davis was no pop band, but again, he moved people to a place of serious spiritual reflection. Jimi Hendrix was a pop phenom, but look at the power he displays and the simple, pure honesty of his music. These examples are of people that were lucky to enjoy extreme success. They however, were influenced by many that were less fortunate, but no less spiritual, than they. So, somewhere, somehow, there will be a spiritual force that reaches the ears of someone with mass appeal and then boom, there it is! In other words, the future lies within. Or in other, other words, anything without chewing tobacco or a pick up truck would be a good start. oops, sorry, forgot I gave up C & W jokes... |
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Bumper Morgan
Jan 15th, 2005 - 10:11 PM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
Personally, I think it will come full circle, back to the basic... I'm in my early 50's and remember well the impact of seeing the Beatles on Ed Sullivan.. I remember watching Paul Revere and the Raiders on black and white tv and playing my bass along to try to learn the lines.. I remember hearing Jimi Hendrix and wondering how he got those sounds.. I remember the profound impact of Heavy Weather and discovering this hippie from miami named Jaco.. I actually saw him play once with Wayne Cocran... I saw Synths and Samplers turn anyone with a computer into Hans Zimmer. I remember how disgusted I got when Ozzie had to kill an animal on stage and Rappers were becoming Messiahs for using the "F" word... Thats when I began to ignore... Now that I'm listeng again I see alot of dribble, but there is a core of real musicians starting to emerge that I think is inspiring. They are in all fields.. But they are not just about musical mastery, they are about communicating the art. I predict that music itself is going back to the roots and as time goes on will become less high tech and once again will be a communication of emotion and freedom as the art was spiritually intended. I've had this conversation with so many friends that say that technology will engulf music.. I disagree, cream always rises to the top, and in my eyes the most profound statements I've heard are the far from complex... Don't mean to go out on the cosmic limb so far, but I think musical civilization had to go full circle to realize that its supposed to come from the heart.... Bumper |
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Adam
Jan 17th, 2005 - 10:07 PM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
Evolution is the future in music if you want to get to the bottom. |
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Serpent
Jun 8th, 2005 - 5:46 AM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
I think the future in music lies in too many different directions to point a certain one. In the past, there's always been an obligatory mainstream, such as classicism, barocco, romanticism etc. But since the 20th century have tended to exist more and more different directions simultaneously. Nothing is mandatory anymore, all the possible borders and limitations have been crossed by the avant-garde, and the former belief in the main role of a definite culture is no more, because many cultures have been presented to each other. If there is something certain to say about future in music, the future is freedom and pluralism. |
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SteveM
Jul 3rd, 2005 - 7:58 AM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
Hi Kai! I am so glad I found this website. I have been listening to you since the Vital Information CD back in the late 80's (wore out two cassettes). Never knew who you were, but had a trmendous respect for your work. Now I need to go check you out on Garaj Mahal (I hope that was a pun). I posted your bio on the JazzHouston.com web site. My opinion for the future of music is ugly. I think that the future of music lies in repackaging existing styles and dumbing them down for the masses. I am a (mostly jazz) musician and the audience gets smaller and smaller each year, as does the number of players capable of really doing the repetoire. When music gets too complicated, a new shoot springs up. Jazz in the early late 60's required a life of dedication to play and sophisticated ears, so it fell out of popularity and R&B and rock and roll filled the void for the teenagers. Then rock got progressively more complicated and , voila, punk came in to fill all the voids and make the music accessible to the newbies. Rap is the ******* child of soul, RnB, and techno. No melody, no harmony. just rhythm. If you have a bass and can sla a pattern you are in. I practice my art for myself now. If the audience digs it, great. If they don't, well, I hope somewhere in their journey of listening and learning, they can. |
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david berzonsky
Sep 13th, 2005 - 5:46 PM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
I think the future of my music is intimately tied to the beautiful future of human culture, which looks more excititing than at any time in history. this is of course in contrast to the business of music (and the difficulty on livelihood in it) which of course, is much darker, at the current time, at least in the united states. check it out--- sin fronteras what does this all mean to me, the roots of my culture, the worlds that live inside, dreams of the drowned men, blood of their children, it all grows inside our dreams, our creations, the same story, always the same story, North America to South, one great web of motion, dance, endless passions, music --all one in the mind of creation, all our stories, every one beautiful and boring like my own-- our blood mingles, our voices echo through the alleyways, we sing our songs and there is no division, only joy, the kinetic movement of the art, of beauty, our dance, this life, the people, la raza, this mirror of humanity in our hearts, never any borders, no borders in the mind of creativity, these rhythms inside of us, of Africa, Brasil, New York, D.C. the motion is the same always, always the same, these are the fruits of creation, the blood of the drowned men washing up on the shores of the new world, dreaming of their loves, their songs, the songs that are the Americas, and we are all part of it, it breathes in us, lives in our limbs, the tears of our deepest longings, the great saudade. Que vive la sangre nueva Que vive la sangre nueva que vive, que vive, que todos lo digan que vive, la sangre nueva |
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Kai Eckhardt
Sep 28th, 2005 - 11:16 AM |
Re: Where lies the future in music?
That is so poetic Dave, Thank you for taking the time. The greatest thing about music for me is its limitless ability to process, express, and heal anything we experience in this life, be it good or bad. Most conflicts we humans take out on each other have their origin in past trauma and the "issues at hand" are a mere excuse to vent unresolved emotions. If everyone had a serious artistic outlet, we would indeed be in a better place. greetings, Kai 
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