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Mark Cadwallader Jun 24th, 2005 - 3:37 PM	Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 A nicely told tale about Catholics and Proestants, but I missed any compelling scientific rationale for keeping evolution as is in the science classrooms, nor any arguments as to why we should not tell all about the many weaknesses of evolution. Where is discussion of first principles of science? And why shouldn't we admit in the texts the philosophic rooting in naturalism that evolutionism has? Once again, just because an extinct crocodile was not as mobile as a present one, is no proof at all about anything. Neither are similarities between inverted skeletons. This carries weight only if one is far down a train of logic based on those faulty premises, i.e., common ancestry, descent through time, and entropy violating genetic change across species groups, etc, etc. It simply does not convince a scientist like me who wants hard data and forced conclusions, and who is skeptical, not of the Bible, but of the herd mentality, and of premises couched in God-denial. Email

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Mark Cadwallader

Jun 24th, 2005 - 3:37 PM

Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2

A nicely told tale about Catholics and Proestants, but I missed any compelling scientific rationale for keeping evolution as is in the science classrooms, nor any arguments as to why we should not tell all about the many weaknesses of evolution. Where is discussion of first principles of science? And why shouldn't we admit in the texts the philosophic rooting in naturalism that evolutionism has?

Once again, just because an extinct crocodile was not as mobile as a present one, is no proof at all about anything. Neither are similarities between inverted skeletons. This carries weight only if one is far down a train of logic based on those faulty premises, i.e., common ancestry, descent through time, and entropy violating genetic change across species groups, etc, etc.

It simply does not convince a scientist like me who wants hard data and forced conclusions, and who is skeptical, not of the Bible, but of the herd mentality, and of premises couched in God-denial.

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Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 4:08pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by Mark Cadwall... - Jun 24, 2005 5:21pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 5:39pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by Mark Cadwall... - Jun 24, 2005 7:02pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 7:14pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by L. Aron Nels... - Jun 24, 2005 8:21pm

Open Minds Teach Both Sides - by M Ramsey - Jun 24, 2005 9:57pm

Re: Open Minds Teach Both Sides - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 10:05pm

Open Minds Teach Both Sides - by M Ramsey - Jun 24, 2005 10:13pm

Re: Open Minds Teach Both Sides - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 10:36pm

Re: Re: Open Minds Teach Both Sides - by L. Aron Nels... - Jun 25, 2005 5:16am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by L. Aron Nels... - Jun 24, 2005 8:45pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by L. Aron Nels... - Jun 24, 2005 8:56pm

Platypus - by M Ramsey - Jun 24, 2005 10:06pm

Re: Platypus - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 10:20pm

Re: Re: Platypus - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 10:25pm

Re: Re: Platypus - by M Ramsey - Jun 24, 2005 10:28pm

Re: Re: Re: Platypus - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 10:34pm

Re: Re: Re: Platypus - by L. Aron Nels... - Jun 25, 2005 5:33am

Re: Platypus - by L. Aron Nels... - Jun 24, 2005 10:22pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by L. Aron Nels... - Jun 24, 2005 9:15pm

ET eukaryotes? - by M Ramsey - Jun 24, 2005 10:09pm

Re: ET eukaryotes? - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 10:27pm

Re: Re: ET eukaryotes? - by M Ramsey - Jun 24, 2005 10:34pm

Re: Re: Re: ET eukaryotes? - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 10:39pm

Re: Re: Re: ET eukaryotes? - by L. Aron Nels... - Jun 25, 2005 5:52am

Re: Re: Re: Re: ET eukaryotes? - by L. Aron Nels... - Jun 25, 2005 9:06am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by Mark Cadwall... - Jun 24, 2005 7:06pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 7:22pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 7:31pm

NAS religious affiliation - by M Ramsey - Jun 24, 2005 7:45pm

Re: NAS religious affiliation - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 8:22pm

Re: Re: NAS religious affiliation - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 8:30pm

Re: Re: NAS religious affiliation - by M Ramsey - Jun 24, 2005 8:45pm

Re: Re: Re: NAS religious affiliation - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 9:37pm

See MDs Question Darwinism thread...: NAS religious affiliation - by M Ramsey - Jun 24, 2005 9:54pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by Mark Cadwall... - Jun 24, 2005 8:46pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 9:44pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Pope’s Velociraptor – and the KKK part 2 - by L. Aron Nels... - Jun 25, 2005 11:54am

crossposted at Christian Forums - by Judy Stokes - Jun 24, 2005 2:10pm

Re: crossposted at Christian Forums - by Mark Cadwall... - Jun 24, 2005 2:51pm

Re: Re: crossposted at Christian Forums - by Michael Nova... - Jun 24, 2005 4:24pm

I post at CF - by Judy Stokes - Jun 24, 2005 7:07pm

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