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Re: Re: Just Read....."RED"

I'm glad you are going to read it! Please let me know what you think. Also I would be interested, when you get your copy, to find if they kept the many pics in the paperback, that is in the hardback
book. There were a lot of Florence and her daughter.
Then there is the very 'hard looking photo' of Susan
at the beginning of the book, which is based on what
she was really like, underneath the movie-star strutcure. It is the pic taken at the time she finds her mother has died and is on the set of I WANT TO LIVE!

This will not ruin the book for you, but will give you an idea of what you are in for, when reading this
book on her life. I think this book will haunt me and
my thoughts of Susan for the rest of my life. I just
wished that the twins would have given some comments on this writing. It would have helped immenseley.

Later...Errol

Re: Re: Re: Just Read....."RED"

I first read "RED" when I was looking for a what was then a new biography on Rita Hayworth ("If this was Happiness," Real sad) in the library.
I really didn't know about Susan Hayward other than seeing her in Demetrius and the Gladiators and Say goodbye Maggie Cole. Red painted her as a passionate woman--that's what got me interested. Then I read "portrait of a survivor" and that's what got me hooked

Re: Re: Re: Re: Just Read....."RED"

I agree that Portrait of a Survivor was a great bio on her. Beverly Linet did a great service to her. In
RED...you get a few more facts on things that Linet
only skimmed over...but I feel it might have been better 'not knowing' some of those facts that were brought out in RED. I learned a lot more about the way she acteed around the cast of MAME...also there is a lot more about 'how' she met KATHERINE HEPBURN
and 'how' that friendship continued. Oh...there are a
lot of 'good things' in RED...but it also paints Susan out to not be a very nice person...Even Susan,
herself, saying she had never been a 'nice person'...
But then I go back to what I first said...I think a
lot of RED was from Florence and others who wanted to
put her down a lot! I wonder if the writer's of this book, really liked her...or were they showing her as a bad person...to make a buck?

Errol

Re: Re: Re: Just Read....."RED"

I received my paperback copy of "Red" today. Unfortunately, it only has two photos. A young pretty one, on the cover, & the hard, angst-ridden photo inside the front cover. (I'm disappointed!)

Re: Re: Re: Re: Just Read....."RED"

Blooeyz....Well..by now you have probally gotten into the book and are aware of the 'tough' pic and how much it has to to with this telling of Susan's life. I knew that photo would have to be there, since
it is the pic that 'they say' she carried with her from then and on....as a look of 'who she really was'. THAT is disappoionting to me!

I'm sorry there were not the many pics in the paperback...that were in the hardback book. Many pics
that went along with the story.

One that I still see, vividly, is a snapshot of Florence in the foreground, as the focal point of the pic...and Susan sitting in the background..a somber look on her face. "still watching" but not part of mama and sis' love.

Errol
The book still haunts me!!

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Just Read....."RED"

I'm still reading "Red" & enjoying it. To me, it seems Susan had a hard time distinguishing reality from movie making. It's as if she thought the cameras were rolling 24/7. The knock out, drag out fight(s) with Jess Barker, attempted suicide, melodramatic breakdown at Eaton's grave, excessive boozing (very Angie Evans/Eloise Winters), her treatment of Celeste Holm at her farewell party for "Mame" (very Helen Lawson), etc. I also think it's laughable that they suggest a "romance" between her & Ron Nelson (I saw him on her A&E Bio & I doubt that very much).