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Re: NEVER FORGOTTEN...ALWAYS WILL BE MISSED..

ELAINE!

What a laugh I just had, reading your Dad's perfectly reasonable response to the Obits: "....that if he didn't see his name....he went to work!". My own father had that EXACT type sense of humor--and, oh, did I miss him, even as I couldn't stop the giggling those words brought on!!

And that lovely poem you saw at the bottom of another Obit certainly did pertain to Susan and all those who will never forget her. I wonder if the writer of the Obit composed the poem, not that it matters. It says, in a lovely way, how we all feel.

(And, I hope Susan will not feel slighted, that reading this poem, so soon after your Dad's hilarious comment, brought on such a flood of wistfulness for the loss of my own Dad, back in 1977.)

Anyway, Elaine, thank you for quoting a poem so apt for Susan--whoever the author may be! '....Susan WILL always be remembered and WILL live on in our hearts.'

Lynn




P.S. Apropos of nothing in particular--except for Joan Crawford fans--my father died on the same date that she did. And I remember that especially because she actually had arranged that in her Obit, it be noted that nothing had been left to her two first children, Christina and Chrisopher!
That line read:

"It is my intention to make no provision herein for my son Christopher or my daughter Christina for reasons which are well known to them."

Talk about Joan Crawford's desire for publicity--even after she passed on!

Re: NEVER FORGOTTEN...ALWAYS WILL BE MISSED..

ERROL -

I read and enjoyed so much your tribute to Susan, as to how you were so favorably helped by her films and her actions. How I wish I had watched her movies as a young girl, and, then, young woman! I think I would have stood a lot taller if I had!

Whether from her scripts--or her own real-life responses--she appeared to know when to stand up for herself--and when to show her many kindnesses. Though a lot of her words did come from her films, she always spoke them with strength and belief. And, even not knowing the real Susan, other than that she faced her own difficult times--along with her shyness and her fears--(like so many of us), I can still understand, Errol, how she gave you the strength to fight to overcome your own difficulties. She was so special to so many people.

(And, I, too, could feel my worries quiet down, when Susan's scenes and lines just made me laugh--and I marveled at her timing! Being originally from the Bronx, myself---neighbor to Brooklyn--her humor, especially her wry smile--and her sarcastic retorts--were SO familiar to me!)

And, Errol--if we ARE lucky enough to ascend to the heavens, choosing our own pefect, puffy cloud to alight on (as we, of course, play the harp!), I think you can be certain that Susan will chart a direct course to you, beaming down her special wink..... as she happily admits......"Boy, was I wrong about people's memories!!"

Thanks, again, for sharing your heartfelt tribute!

Lynn

Re: NEVER FORGOTTEN...ALWAYS WILL BE MISSED..

Hi Errol,
Your tribute is so nice indeed. We all
miss our Susan. I thought about her all
day yesterday. God bless you.

Ray

Re: NEVER FORGOTTEN...ALWAYS WILL BE MISSED..

Elaine...I loved those words you shared with us. They are so true...Also loved the thing your dad used to say. I checked the paper this morning..and I am not there...yet..(lol)...

Re: NEVER FORGOTTEN...ALWAYS WILL BE MISSED..

Thanks Lynn....I will look forward to the day I can 'catch a cloud' and maybe share a moment with Susan...

Re: NEVER FORGOTTEN...ALWAYS WILL BE MISSED..

Thanks, Ray...Just like you...I know she is always in our hearts and gave us so much without ever knowing it!...

Re: NEVER FORGOTTEN...ALWAYS WILL BE MISSED..

Errol, what a very special tribute you wrote to commemorate a very special lady! I believe that one of the greatest honors you can give a performer is to realize that he/she quite literally changed your life. That, to me, is part of the magic of gifted actors....that they can make their reality reflect their audience's reality...that the strength and the heart of their performances flow effortlessly from the screen or stage, directly to those of us viewers who are open to receive their 'gift.'

I think that for you and for most of us here, it is no 'accident' that we were and still are touched by Susan and her work. Those performances that win our hearts and change our lives are the hallmark of a performer who has truly 'lived' - if not the actual experience, perhaps, the emotional pain of the characters they portray. You simply cannot fake life and its lingering effects...and it's that reality in Susan's work that strikes such a strong chord in us. Or as you say, Errol, in you own personal and heartfelt way, teaches us 'how to survive and to continue on and never give up!"

So, thanks Errol for sharing your own personal story why "Susan will never be forgotten." (And, also!, for reminding me of how much I enjoyed Susan's wry sense-of-humor. I always laugh at those times in films, when she 'tosses off' a quip and gives a look that is so purely "Nu Yawk,!" my home sweet home.)

P.S. Errol - I hope you've given thought to the times that YOU, yourself, have touched an audience - either through laughter or tears. Whatever the venue - film or theater - you've made that connection. That is what I've loved most about my own time spent acting....that communication with an audience. It's magic.

Re: NEVER FORGOTTEN...ALWAYS WILL BE MISSED..

Thank you Alice...for your kind words. I hope that, in some ways, I have helped in my times on the stage..for others. I do know that it is a very funny/strange thing..with actors. They usually like the 'exact opposite' of what they like to watch...and are driven toward that 'opposite' when acting.

Let me explain: I love to do musical comedy and love to make people laugh. But when it comes to watching...(either on stage or film, tv)...I ALWAYS lean to the dramatic..or other than comedy...things that I enjoy watching. I am not the only one who is this way. In fact, over the years...most of the comedic actors I have worked with and been around, all say the same thing. They prefer the 'complete opposite' to what they enjoy doing. Some may like westerns or cop shows or si-fi as their 'favorite'..and of course...the drama area. BUT..when it comes to performing, they are most comfortable...doing musicals and comedies.

Life is strange....isn't it....???....

Re: NEVER FORGOTTEN...ALWAYS WILL BE MISSED..

Errol
Thank you Alice...for your kind words. I hope that, in some ways, I have helped in my times on the stage..for others. I do know that it is a very funny/strange thing..with actors. They usually like the 'exact opposite' of what they like to watch...and are driven toward that 'opposite' when acting.

Let me explain: I love to do musical comedy and love to make people laugh. But when it comes to watching...(either on stage or film, tv)...I ALWAYS lean to the dramatic..or other than comedy...things that I enjoy watching. I am not the only one who is this way. In fact, over the years...most of the comedic actors I have worked with and been around, all say the same thing. They prefer the 'complete opposite' to what they enjoy doing. Some may like westerns or cop shows or si-fi as their 'favorite'..and of course...the drama area. BUT..when it comes to performing, they are most comfortable...doing musicals and comedies.

Life is strange....isn't it....???....


Yes, indeed! Life is, for sure, strange! : And, Errol, what you say is so absolutely TRUE! My acting colleagues and I, for the most part, have played roles/been in shows diametrically opposed to the type of works we tend to prefer watching. I've done primarily comedies (I adored doing Neil Simon stuff - 'Corrie' in 'Barefoot in the Park'; and 'Bobbi Michelle' in 'Lovers and Other Strangers" - or Leonard Gershe's 'Jill' in 'Butterflies Are Free'), but my personal taste in film is always toward the psychological - where the character is complex and makes me "think." This can go anywhere from real-life drama, to suspense, to films that tend to be a little 'dark or edgy.' I also like dark comedies, spoofs and satires. My friends always laugh since I look so "wholesome" - but, like you say, "Life is strange!"

(I'm sure that is why I'm drawn to Susan and her films. Her characters (and the brilliant way she plays them) are complex and take you to the edge. Even in her comedies, her humor is always razor sharp and edgy.)

P.S. Errol, I envy you so much being able to do musicals. The old, classic Broadway musical comedies, contrary to my 'darker side," still remain my favorite genre of music! (I got a 'taste' of the joy during my teens in community stuff when I did 'Louise' in Carousel and 'Kim' in 'Bye Bye Birdie." Alas, my musical talents fell short of the "Great White Way."

P.P.S. Oh how I envy you seeing Susan in 'Mame!' She's won all my respect for the incredible body of work she gifted us with over the years, but special kudos go to her for taking on the indomitable Auntie Mame - and wowing the audience! "BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO!"

Re: NEVER FORGOTTEN...ALWAYS WILL BE MISSED..

Lovely tribute, Errol...