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Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

Trish, Hi!

I don't believe I ever knew about Dianne Thomas's Collectors Club for Susan Hayward!! What a nice thing to do---and sad that it's gone.

I loved reading the "Nearsighted" story (do you have any more issues that Dianne wrote?), and I could identify so well, when at 14, I discovered that despite perfect-sighted vision on both sides of our family--my twin and I were the only ones 'honored' enough to receive the "Mr. McGoo" award!

Not a candidate for hard OR soft lenses, I spent much of my life casually dangling a pair of specs from my hand. ("Oh, THESE things??? Naw, I just like to swing 'em around.....") (Does anyone know if Marsha Hunt is still with us? Maybe she'd like to start a club???)

Funnily enough, I once saw a photo of Susan, seated at a a fancy table setting....and there they were...half out of sight...her eye glasses--ready for any necessary emergencies!

Anyway, Trish, thanks so much for this article from Dianne's newsleter--it's always great to read new info. on Susan!! I knew she was nearsighted--but I never knew that her friend in Carrolton cared about Susan enough to share a newsletter with us!

Lynn




Hi, Errol!

You certainly do share my fate of reliving over and over the worst possible interpretation of what some person we care about must have been 'breathing-fire' over due to a (non-existent) 'slip-up' we're certain we made in a personal encounter!!

You know, Errol, you were so far down the hall from Susan, that the actual 'scowl' you saw her casting towards you, was no doubt more of an "Oh for heaven's sake, my glasses aren't in my hand!! Did I leave them near that handsome fellow standing near my office door??"

For people like us, who spend so much nervous time wanting to impress our favorite person with, in your case, say 'an air of savoir faire'.......or in my case, 'the wild, 'madcap' ditties of a droll Dorothy Parker' (!!)---land up SO tongue-tied---that we can be lucky to get out a HELLO!

Well, Errol, I know this is a difficult time for you, having lost your half--brother, and all I can say is that I hope that all the crazed excitement that always surrounds the theater will help dull the pain for you in all the activities that must get done--and that the joy of your performances will bring you some happiness, as you start to heal.

Take care of yourself and talk to you soon,

Lynn

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Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

Hi Lynn,

I am afraid you misunderstood my letter re Dianne Thomas. She was NOT a friend of Susan's, just a fan like us who started up a club for Susan and put out a newsletter every few months - members wrote and posted their ideas and feelings and knowledge of Susan. M/s Thomas moved to Carrollton many years after Susan passed away. The Club finished up when she moved to Florida and got married.

TRISH

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Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

Hi, Trish!

Thanks for the 'check-up' on my 'mix-up'! (The age-difference alone, between Dianne and Susan would have been quite a difference considering how long ago Susan left Carrollton!) It is interesting, though, that Dianne landed up in Carrollton---and then went on to Florida, to marry! Tho', of course, Susan didn't leave for Florida to marry.

I'll bet Dianne's 'Susan fans' were very sad to see the newsletter end. I don't suppose anyone besides Dianne could grant permission for our Board to see any further newsletters on Susan? She seemed to have been very well-liked during her years with Eaton in Carrollton. But knowing Susan, I cannot imagine her wishing ANY part of that personal newsletter made open to others (except for amusing tales like the eyeglasses!)


best, Lynn

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Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

Trish, I remember Dianne Thomas and her newsletter. I don't remember how I came across the fact that she had a newsletter, probably in a fan magazine. I just have no idea. I always looked forward to receiving it. I even had a write-up in one of them. I don't remember what I wrote about or even how long it is, but I remember Dianne included it. Do you remember seeing my little article? That must have been about 25 years ago.

I don't remember when the newsletters stopped or maybe I didn't renew my subscription for some dumb reason. I don't have any of the newsletters anymore I don't think unless they are boxed away in some of my boxes marked Susan Hayward. I must go through them.

I had wondered what happened to Dianne. I did remember that she was moving to Carrollton which I thought was kind of odd unless she was planning writing a book or articles for her newsletter. I didn't know that she had gotten married and moved to Florida.

P.S. I don't think I was ever in the Collector's Club. If I was , I can't remember. Gosh, getting old is terrible.. ha

Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

Trish,
I was a member of the SH Collectors Club back in the day and,like Ginger,
have always wondered whatever happened to Dianne Thomas. I also found it rather odd that she would move to Carrollton-almost like carrying being a fan to an extreme. Nevertheless,in 1989,when that 3 day event took place
in Carrollton I really wanted to go.....never mind that I had four children
and a job! I always have regretted not going-missed opportunity.

By the way Trish, in a recent post you mentioned that you had visited the
house in which Susan died and also met up with her granddaughter Ally in
New York-how did these events come about? I've also wondered if Nadia,who
was quite young when Susan died,has any memory of her. Greg's son Chris
was,I think,a little older-does he? I read that Susan had always wanted
a daughter,so if that's true,she must have been happy when Nadia was born.

Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

Hi Elaine,

Regarding your queries on your letter, would you like to give me your e.mail address when I can answer in detail?

Thanks,

TRISH

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Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

Hi Ginger,

You said you couldn't remember being in the Collector's Club - this was just the name that Dianne gave the newsletter as she didn't want to use the word "fan club" - she thought it wasn't appropriate as Susan had passed away.
The members voted for this name. They all paid a yearly subscription. For anyone else interested in reading this (and who wasn't a member) the letter was just a couple of pages of typing, sometimes three pages (both sides) with different information and photographs of Susan and particularly addresses where people could buy videos of Susan (this was before dvd's) - some were pretty expensive - up to $50, and there were also photos for sale. Three authors on Susan were members: Gene Arceri, Doug McLelland and Kim Holsten oh and Eduardo Moreno who actually joined a group one weekend to meet up in Carrollton to celebrate Susan's birthday. There was a picture of about a dozen members taken by the grave.

The club finished abruptly, as far as I was told with no-one knowing what had happened to Dianne Thomas. I found the answer to the mystery when I visited Susan's grave many years later and the Secretary at the Church, Pat told me Dianne had got married and left Carrollton to live in Florida.

TRISH

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Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

Trish,
So sorry-thought the e-mail was on my post;it is now!
Elaine

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Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

Trish,
I just sent you(I hope) a long email in response to yours. As I was
about to close,my computer froze and after pushing several buttons
to no avail,I gave up and just sent it as it was. I also saved it-
I think. Please let me know if you received it..... I HATE COMPUTERS!!!!

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Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

Hi Elaine,

Received safely - this has happened to me too!

TRISH

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Re: DIANNE THOMAS - Susan Hayward Collectors Club

thanks, trish